I know that selling pools on the mainland is very lucrative as the heat of summer and isolation of COVID-19 prevails. But I didn’t think pool selling would be popular in Hawaii since we’re essentially in the pool called the Pacific Ocean.
But after seeing this in Target going to a single customer, pool selling in the 808 must be a thing.
Really, when it comes down to it, it’s about setting and managing realistic expectations. That’s another key distinguishing point between #coppingkicks and #rossfinds. For whatever reason those indulging in #coppingkicks are expecting to get every sneaker they go after. They’ll always expect the “W” and not just for a single pair but multiple pairs of hyped sneakers. And, that’s not realistic. There are just too many others out there in the same situation, armed with the same tools and knowledge, going after the same pairs of shoes.
Doing the #rossfinds however, there are usually little to no expectations. Sure, you hope to find something good, but you know that for every store you enter, you expect to leave emptyhanded. I guess that’s why finding a gem is that much sweeter.
I can’t quite tell which is worse though – tracking the success stories of those #coppingkicks or doing the #rossfinds. I guess monitoring either one sets unrealistically high expectations for yourself. Sure, it can be fun to indulge and imagine similar success, but in both cases, set realistic expectations.
Whether #coppingkicks or searching for #rossfinds, one notable distinction is that size matters. It really matters. Success in one field doesn’t equate to success in the other.
So here it goes. When doing the #rossfinds thing, you’re hoping to score men’s shoes sized 9-12. These are the most common men’s sizes, so therefore, you have the largest audience of potential customers. Check out this size run of the recent Yeezy Zebra release that illustrates the size breakdown.
Although not 100% accurate (that 85 size 8.5 was an admitted typo), you get the idea of the size distribution with size 9-12 dominating the size run. Here’s a graphical view showing the bell-shaped results.
Now let’s flip it around for #coppingkicks. This strategy targets the extremes. Success with #coppingkicks means copping kicks as small or as big as possible. You want the size 6 or 16. In this market, you avoid the common sizes. You target the small supply to drive the high demand and accordingly, the high cost. Reselling the common sizes aka bricks won’t lead to profit and in fact, could lead to losses. The lower sizes aka “bae sizes” are for the women, youngsters, and small footers. The larger sizes are more of a gamble since the population of size 16-ers isn’t common, but they need fresh kicks too.
The basic idea is to own one of the 256 size 4 shoes and have more bargaining power than one of the 1316 in a size 9.5. It’s the basic principle of supply and demand at work.
I briefly dabbled with Poshmark as another means to sell my #rossfinds, but Posh is a different kind of place. The clientele is unlike eBay, and accordingly, your goods aka your closet, needs to match up. Rossfinds is not an ideal match for Poshmark since you can’t say the items are NWT (New with Tags) if you don’t have the original box, and the fees make it harder to negotiate price.
So I stopped selling on Posh, but I’m revisiting it since some of my recent finds have been a little more posh. Stuff like this Air Jordan 12 in Vachetta Tan. We’ll see if this newest attempt leads to anything worthwhile…
The most obvious observation of buying high end kicks aka #coppingkicks is how high tech it is. Software bots, monitors, quick tasks, cloud-based servers, virtual machines, VPN, proxies, and more are just some of the tech you’ll need to be familiar with if you want the high end. It’s amazing to see what tools are readily available to assist with #coppingkicks.
Need a full blown Windows Data Center server? Head to Google’s Cloud Platform and spin one up in seconds. Now you have a remote server to launch your bot assault. Oh wait, you need proxies to differentiate your origin? Scripts are available to create proxies by the masses. Delete when done (or banned) and go again. It’s unreal.
But all of this comes with a cost that should make you think twice about wanting to cop kicks at the high end. All of that mentioned above will cost you. Software bots can range from a few hundred to a thousand dollars and most have periodic renewal subscriptions to keep them active. But a good bot works even better when it knows when to get to work, so you’ll need to pay for a monitor. While you can create your own proxy servers using established tech like Squid, you can also rent them as needed. All set? Not quite. With all this infrastructure, some shoe sites like Nike require valid user accounts to make purchases. After signing up all eligible family members, you have like what, 3 or 4 verified Nike accounts? People can buy verified accounts by the dozen. Configure your bot to send tasks to various proxies using different accounts, and now you’re ready to buy the trendiest out there. Except that there are many, many more with this same exact setup and even better. So after this investment, there’s still no guarantee of #coppingkicks.
Just on a personal sidetrack, it seems like slot providers are the most economical route for personal pairs of shoes. Someone with all the tech sells a “slot” for a shoe release. If the bot for that slot successfully makes a purchase then the shoe is yours after paying a fee to the slot provider for this success. Pay After Success (PAS) fees vary depending on the shoe but can be $75-$200. But if you compare the cost of the bot software, proxies, and accounts, and doing it yourself, that PAS fee is reasonable. You won’t make any personal profit, but you probably have a better chance of landing that shoe you coveted.
So my takeaway from #coppingkicks is to stay away unless you’re willing to spend the time and money to educate and digitally arm yourself.
Whenever you’re learning something new, you’re bound to make mistakes. While you can research topics to no end, sometimes, there’s no better way than learning by actually trying… and failing. Like this.
You see, I didn’t realize what ATC links were while #coppingkicks. And in a frenzy trying to purchase profitable Off-White Air Force Ones, caution is greatly diminished due to time constraints. You remember that I told you online buys are measured in seconds. Think too long, and the item is gone. So you just gotta go!
That’s where ATC links come in. These links are Add To Cart, and they do just that. Click on an ATC link, and the associated item is added to a store’s cart and is ready for purchase. Much faster, of course, but you should be cognizant of what you’re adding to cart. In my case, the black Off-White AF1 had released (aka dropped), and restocks were happening. In a string of many notifications for the restocking black OW AF1, I managed to click on an ATC link that led me to a shoe ready for checkout. I successfully completed the order only to discover that I hadn’t purchased an Off-White but instead, I got the Adidas 98 x Crazy BYW Never Made. What’s that you ask? It’s a modernizatin\on of the old Kobe Crazy 8 shoe.
You see during the black OW AF1 restock, the black Crazy 8 shoe was released, mixing the notifications of the two shoes into a fast stream of information. And since you just gotta go, I didn’t notice that the black low-top shoe I added to cart was not an AF1.
Anyone interested in buying this pair of kicks? Actually things could have been worse. Since they are in my size, they are salvagable, and I do have a penchat for old school kicks with modern day tech like the Boost infused in these.
Perhaps I found my badminton shoe for 2019…
For the sake of brevity, I’ll refer to buying higher end items as #coppingkicks and buying discounted items as #rossfinds. Okay, with that out of the way, let’s briefly talk about the risk of either endeavor.
With #rossfinds, you’re looking at discounted items, so costs of items are accordingly discounted. The risk of buying these items are much lower. While bombing on an $80 shoe that doesn’t sell is tough, absorbing that hit is more tolerable. If nothing at all, a #rossfinds purchase can be returned within 30 days of purchase, and past 30 days, you’ll get a store credit. Granted a store credit is funds destined to that store, but you can ideally find another #rossfinds to flip. Rewards with #rossfinds are moderate. Sure, you can find gems once in awhile but don’t expect a homerun each time you visit a Ross. There’s nothing wrong with $20-30 profit per item sold and a steady stream of $20 profits does add up over time.
On the other end, #coppingkicks goes for the homerun each time and even more. It’s all about scooping up the limited items and maximizing resale value. Typically costing$100-200, pairs of kicks are often sold with no returns. Nike and Adidas offer solid return experiences, but they are the exceptions. Most stores sell high end kicks as all sales final. If you land desired items, profits can easily exceed $100 per item. But if your risks turn into bricks, you just lots of money with nary a recourse for recovery. Hopefully, you can sell the items at retail price or even take a partial lost which is better than a full loss.
So you need to figure out your risk-reward comfort level. While it’s fun when you see those high expense sales, it could be intermittent, scattered with pricely mistakes. Or are you willing to trudge along gradually building up revenue?
Just setting up a tag for my reselling experiences. Gonna tag and prefix posts as “resexp.”
Okay, not an eBay tip but a pet peeve. Just how are you supposed to answer questions asking if your items for sale are real or authentic? Um, yes… What kind of question is that? If fake, would I admit to that? And how am I supposed to determine the authenticity either? Yeah, I’ve been around the kicks game for awhile but I’ve never seen every shoe model.
So is this Under Armour Curry 1 “Candy Reign” All Star edition legit?
By now you know you can find completely random items at Ross. Most items are from last season or even older. But once in awhile, you find some newer items. In fact, some items are still being sold by retailers.
Take these Air Jordan Trainer 2 Flyknits for example. While this model is still available at Nike, Footlocker, and other shoe stores, this specific black, cool grey, and jade colorway is one of the originals. So seemingly a steal finding a pair at Ross, reseling them is too tough. You can still easily find inventory of the same shoe at a discount with free shipping included, and that price is very hard to compete with.
If you find a pair for yourself then great. Otherwise, it’s almost better if you found these shoes a few months later, or you have the patience and hold on to them until the online clearance inventory is cleared out with shoppers still looking.
I’m not sure what I’m going to do with this pair…
Personally, I think the Nike Thea line for women look great, especially the Ultra Flyknit versions. I love the silhouette and the interwoven colors of the Flyknit add another dimension. But this doesn’t translate to sales on eBay. And at around $55 at Ross, the Air Max Thea Ultra Flyknit costs more than average.
Not sure why these just don’t sell when the going cost is $150 (or $127 on sale). I don’t see them out and about either. Maybe they don’t fit well? I do know that the weave of the Flyknit is very porous. You can definitely see your sock color coming through since the spacing in the knit is very giving.
So if you ever find a cool pair of Theas at Ross, just know that you may have a challenge moving them.